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Is SaaS a Savior or 'Scary' For The Enterprise?

MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. – The final score: Benioff, 5 runs, 14 hits, 2 errors, 3 walks; Plattner, 4 runs, 9 hits, 3 errors and one hit batsman.

Or thereabouts.

If any of those in attendance here last night for the "Great Debate: The Future of Enterprise Software" had brought a scorecard it would have filled up rapidly. Perhaps it wasn't a debate for the ages, but the Computer History Museum seemed an appropriate spot for the two software sluggers to try and go deep.

Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff and SAP Chairman and co-founder Hasso Plattner went at it pretty good for about an hour and a half before a packed ballroom of industry insiders, venture capitalists and computer execs. At one point, the brash Benioff even tried to convince Plattner to develop SAP's SaaS projects on the Salesforce platform.

Perhaps that wasn't surprising given the stakes. Both companies are battling for a bigger piece of the $250 billion enterprise software market. But this debate was as much about old versus new, established versus upstart as it was about market share.

SaaS Debate
Marc Beniof (L) and Hasso Plattner consider a question during their spirited debate.
Photo: Dave Needle

Benioff seemed to score the most points as he hammered on the theme that the old on-premises model of software long championed by companies like SAP, Oracle, IBM and Microsoft, has had its day.

Plattner's responses were generally more measured, readily conceding there was value in the SaaS model core to Salesforce and other on-demand software providers. SAP (NYSE:SAP) is itself developing a SaaS line called Business ByDesign that will compete directly with Salesforce.

Plattner said over 2,500 developers were working on SAP's on-demand software. "There's no question it's technically possible to run large parts of an enterprise as a service," he said. But later he said the idea of extending all operations to a SaaS model made him "scared to death."

"Do we really want our customers' sales volume and technical problems in an open space?" he added.

But Benioff parried that by noting Salesforce has plenty of enterprise customers, had beat SAP in winning an account with DuPont and has other large customers such as Cisco (NASDAQ:CSCO).

Plattner admitted SAP lost DuPont because its CRM offering at the time wasn't competitive, but he claimed a major software company recently chose SAP over Salesforce to run unspecified parts of its operation. Pressed, Plattner said he would get in trouble with SAP's board if he named the software company.

While Plattner scored points in detailing the breadth of SAP's experience, resources and developer network that now totals over 1.2 million, Benioff seemed to do a better job of framing the debate in the larger context of "the future of enterprise software". He noted how companies like Google, Amazon, Salesforce and others are able to leverage the online model to more rapidly deliver updates and improvements as well as deal more quickly with security issues.

"The industry is moving a hundred percent to the network approach," said Benioff.

While Microsoft is moving to a hybrid model of adding on-demand features to its legacy applications, Benioff said it's "hanging on" to the traditional way Office is developed and deployed "because it's their cash cow." Conversely, he said companies like Google aren't held back, because they don't have the same desktop PC legacy.