for yourself I am the director of platform engineering which basically means the boss of row yeah very good you know sometimes like queen of the universe right but and then I I know you know we can't talk about release dates or anything like that and I'm not going to ask about that rel 7 is ready whenever it's ready but at this point in its maturity how are things shaping up from your perspective I know last year you guys talked about all the things that are coming and I was looking now I think it feels to be pretty well gelled it feels like the features we understand what's going to be there we understand where things are and it's progressing in you know that that march toward beta right we're at the point where we're flushing things out making sure that the computers are there and trying to make sure that we're doing the right things and getting getting the testing behind aged what's the scope of user engagement or private betas at this point if we're able to talk about that and how it's being in newscast we haven't done of what I would call a private customer beta for about seven what we've done is we've taken some of the various components rights and things like the good ol three changes our system d or the anaconda and smaller yep and we brought in teams and customers and had them try to use the new work and see what they thought of it no it's actually been really helped we've made a lot of changes based on their input and I hope we do more and more and more that I because it's really hard in engineering to get a handle on what the customer in most cases are you get a little bit removed from that so it's really been helpful for us to bring people in and see you know look over their shoulders is they tried to use the Installer you know understand what their experience is like with good on three so we've got classic mode by the way in fedora 19 yeah if you've seen that I have that same general direction yeah I think it's pretty complete and we're still looking out tweaking the edges but I think it's gonna it's gonna help the people who have yeah you know who don't want to retrain their fingers right because a lot of people are not gonna be training their muscles right and then just so that so that I'm clear because when I think of a rel I think coarser reply from certainly some people will use it with user interface lots of people use it headless are we talking about good on three and its use for rel seven as a desktop operating system well a lot of our customers do deploy it that way I'm not the studio is and some of our other customers tend to lose it as a desktop virtualization platform which i think is a really interesting space please uh you get the security of 10 underneath all your other guests yeah problem with rel is it's a little bit good so right you want the customer base the section of the customer base that wants it stable solid you don't change the interfaces and then there are the people who say but I've got to have the latest Ruby and it's been really hard to accommodate those two sets people but we think we found a way with the software collections so we've got alternative packaging it's still rpms it installs and to you know into op and you can run parallel Ruby we've got their pipe on 278 133 worshiping um III agree Python 33 breeze while you go through whatever but but because that's that don't would be interesting I just as a curiosity on that one because I know the OpenStack bits are all okay cuz the OpenStack stuff is all too so wouldn't that break OpenStack this stuff right you can install these things in parallel and you can choose what local he is because yeah pythons always a problem because you know we always have the system Python and pieces of the system to picture format version so we can't change that out from things yeah so we had to have something that we could install in parallel yeah so we've got more UDP going in for realm 650 yeah well it won't be in real 65 it'll be in the software collection so you can pop it in there if you want really yeah we've got updated my sequel really yeah that's astounding cuz you will be ill will then be the first Enterprise Linux release with my ID because all of them are still sticking with Oracle only I won't allow Murray to be is there any kind of relationship thank you oh he needs all helping yet this is Mari to be free and open source is great up from the indemnification perspective that rel always provides its customers and support are those is that software collection all also part of that indemnification and support cycle it's on a different support legs it's a three year life cycle okay because that gives us the ability to refresh it because that classic customer needs those refreshes so I frequently and if we can just pull it back from the upstream now it makes it really so much easier for everybody we've really needed a way to be able to deliver it okay you know absolutely and then on the mario DP is there any car relationship between your product group and the where they call themselves now sky sequel mario DB or whatever it is now no difference okay good and you said that would be rel 65 uh well the coffin was actually the software collections went to beta this week it installs on top of well six dot whatever yes six out late is still so they're working right now asics forum and you can pick it up at our beta but we've even got nodejs and there is steady from an organizational perspective and i know you mentioned there was some restructuring what do you see as the challenge of leading this diverse group is that a question of herding cats you know the standard kind of thing or was everybody already following the drummer as it were you know i'm really lucky because it's a great team it's a lot of interesting and committed people who are really engaged in thinking about what we need to do to make well relevant in the next decade right we're going to be at the base of everything the Red Hat does and clearly there is a lot of it on around us and over our heads and there's a lot of work that we're going to be doing in more of a supporting role but we've got a lot of challenges and we need to make sure that we're able to deliver things at the right cadence I think software collections takes us in a good direction there we need to have a firm stable secure absolutely solid core on and that's going to be the basis that other things away on top
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